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King and Queen

Farmhouse, corn market, inn: a history

The original King and Queen inn was a bow-fronted two-storey Georgian building on the site of a farmhouse. This had gained a licence in 1779 to cater for various sporting events held at that time on the North Steine. In addition the inn was also the venue for Brighton's corn market until 1868 when the Corn Exchange opened.

The present building was built in the Tudor style by architects Clayton and Black in 1931-32 with carved timber framing, herring-bone brickwork, stained glass and tapestries. The interiors were fitted out by Heaton, Tabb and Company, a well-known firm of pub decorators. Despite the figures of Henry VIII and one of his wives, the inn's sign more accurately shows King George III and Queen Charlotte. In 1967 three rooms were knocked through to make a mediaeval nobleman's hall.

Photo:The King and Queen pub

The King and Queen pub

Photo by John Desborough

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This page was added on 22/03/2006.

Comments:

I am a descendant of the Edlin family who once owned and ran many pubs within Brighton and it is a delight to see it on this website.
By Neil Edlin (04/11/2005)
I too am a descendant of the Edlin family whose HQ for their Brighton pub chain was the King and Queen. After the First World War it was a garage run by Walter Edlin and Neville Hodgson before reverting to a pub in 1932. My grandfather Tubby Edlin was a comedian, his mother Emily and his brothers built the Brighton pub business.
By Simon Edlin (25/07/2006)
Does anyone have any more details of what the bulding was like from the 18th century up to 1931 when it was re-designed in the Tudor style? It is a fascinating old place.
By Pauline (28/07/2006)

My mum used to use the Edlins pubs: the Western, King and Queen, one in West Street that used to be known as 'Jimmys', and one on Kingsway in Hove, I can't recall the name, I used to work in that one. They were friendly family pubs.

By Sandie Waller (25/05/2007)

Was the Edlins pub on Kingsway in Hove The Abinger?

By Adrian Baron (07/06/2007)

I am researching the Edlin family tree and would love to make contact with other Edlins from our family.  edlinresearch@yahoo.co.uk

By Mandy Edlin Gulley (14/09/2007)

The Abinger was on Kingsway but in Brighton not Hove. It was situated between the bottom of Montpelier Road and Oriental Place.

By Alan Phillips (19/10/2007)

My Grandfather used to frequent this pub in the 1940s and 1950s, he was Councillor C. G. Manton and later an Alderman. I often used to stop by when I lived in Brighton from 1946 until 1957 and my Grandfather would buy me a lemonade. He was well known as the Councillor from Moulscombe. I would like to hear from anyone that knew him and has any information about him that I can include in my memoirs.

By John Manton (07/01/2008)

The pub in West Street was called Christies. Jimmy's was a super restaurant just off the bottom of St James's Street.  The Sussex is still on Hove seafront.

By Stephen Edlin (28/01/2008)

I have some old photographs and other items relating to Tubby Edlin in his theatrical days. I believe he was a relative of my grandfather, possibly a cousin. I remember mention of him visiting relatives in the Brighton area.  I'm happy to send scans of these items to any of his relatives who are interested.

By Jane Robinson (03/02/2008)

The original Georgian King and Queen backed onto Church Street Infantry Barracks. Soldiers did not have to leave the barracks to drink, they could buy their alcohol from a serving window in the rear. Whilst on Guard duty in 1862, John Flood of the 18th Hussars got enough dutch courage from the K & Q, he took his musket and shot John O'Dea who was the barrack room bully. In an earlier incident (1822) Private Thomas Blamy of the Second Regiment of Foot also visited the K & Q, but in a state of depression after having been falsely accused of stealing. He left intoxicated, returned to the barracks, passed a string through his toes from the trigger of musket, and in the words of the Brighton Gazette, "scattered his brain over the walls of the immediate buildings."

By Roy Grant (06/03/2008)

I would love to hear from Jane Robinson. I too have some Tubby Edlin information and it seems we are related. Edlin1@flash.net

By Mandy Edlin (09/03/2008)

"Jimmy's Bar" was part of the old Southern Hotel in St. James's Street. The Southern Hotel was an Edlins pub and hotel. The main entrance to the Southern was in St. James's Street, but you got to Jimmy's Bar by going round the side to Steine Street, where the entrance was opposite The Queen's Head. The bar was on the first floor but it's now flats. You can still see the remains of the magnificent facade of the Southern Hotel in St. James's Street above the slot machine arcade on the south side of the street below Manchester Street.

By Chris Taylor (27/03/2008)

I am the daughter of Geoffrey Tabb who worked for many years at Heaton Tabb & Co, who were also involved in interior design for passenger liners. Ashby Tabb the co-owner of the company was my great uncle. As a child (about 1955) I remember being introduced to a Mr Edlin when visiting Heaton Tabb's works in Willesden, London NW10. Could he be a relation of Neil and/or Simon Edlin? I imagined as a child that he was one of my father's co-workers at Heaton Tabb but on finding this site, suppose that he most likely was the then current owner of the pub chain. It is really interesting to find this link as I am currently researching into Heaton Tabb & Co and Aldam Heaton before the companies merged. Most records were destroyed when Heaton Tabb closed down in the 1960s.

By Susan Tabb (18/04/2008)

A message for Susan Tabb. My father James Riley was chief setter out for Heaton Tabbs in Liverpool in the 1960s and he is very interested to find out what became of Ashby Tabb, your Great Uncle, and from what my dad says a very fine artist! He believes Ashby married and left Liverpool. He would be very gratefull of any information you could give him, Kind Regards.

By Michael Riley (28/05/2008)

John Aldam Heaton was my great-great-great uncle. I'd love to find out more about him and his work. We have a bedspread that we believe was designed by him and probably embroidered by his wife and daughter: See it here.

By David Edwards (06/06/2008)

I am very interested in the history of the King and Queen before the new build - ideally 1800s but any era would be of interest. I am building a case file of interest. There have been a few tales of scandal and goings-on that bring this place to life in the eyes of History, but I would like to know what is just hearsay and what is possibly true. If anyone has any stories that have been passed along through families etc I would love to hear from you. Many thanks.

By Miss V. Langford (08/09/2008)

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