There is a pub on the corner of Sussex and Windmill Streets now called The Setting Sun which was originally called The Millers Arms (and built as such in the mid 19th Century). If any one has any information about the Millers Arms I would be grateful or even if there used to be a separate pub called the Setting Sun

This does not look like Sussex Street. I'm only 46 and on the right hand side of this street has always been a park

It is indeed Sussex Street. The photograph was taken in 1932 by James S Gray a well known recorder and collector of Brighton photographs. The side roads, which ran through to Carlton Hill, are Woburn Place and Nelson Row with the Mission Hall on the corner. They were demolished in 1936. Part of this site is now occupied by Kingswood Flats built in 1938 and named after Sir Kingsley Wood, Minister of Health in the Chamberlain Government

On Sussex Street above what was then Sussex Terrace (now part of John Street) going up the hill on the right hand side was a small park with swings and what looked like the turret of an old fort, probably part of some old building where all us kids used to play. A few years after the war there was an old railway engine put there for the kids to play on and it was there for quite a while. Against the wall that backed on to Sussex Street there was an old fig tree and the fruit on it was really nice to eat. Also there were a few trees but just before one Guy Fawkes night me, Roy, and Ginger Hubbard, and most of the other kids in Sussex Terrace went up there and chopped about three of them down. We built the biggest bonfire seen in Brighton since the Blitz, so people said, on the waste ground at the end of Sussex Terrace. The park was called The Creech I think thats how it was spelled? Also there was a building opposite the end of Sussex Terrace that was used as a college I think. When it was being built I fell through the scaffolding when playing on it and fell about 30 ft but only got bruises, so I was lucky not to have been killed. I wonder if its still there? I would love to know.

At the bottom of Windmill Street, at its junction with Sussex Street, there was the Millers Arms. On the opposite side of the street was the flank wall to a row of terraced houses. Continuing on from these houses in Sussex Street was a greengrocer, a sweet shop (I think), then the bookmaker on the corner of Stanley Street. The bookmaker was Eric Jaffe, who I don't think was very successful. Unfortunately, Eric Jaffe was known locally as the only bookmaker to walk everywhere, although he did use a bike sometimes. Sorry, no photos.

The only public house near to the Millers Arms was the London Arms on the opposite side of Sussex Street, almost opposite Stanley Street, demolished in the mid 50s. A pub called the Rising Sun was on the corner of Grosvenor Street, according to an old map of the area published on this web site.

Does anyone remember Sussex Street Nursery? I was born in 1956 so would have been about 3 or 4 years old, they put us down for a nap in the afternoon on wooden fold out beds, and mums would sit on the wall opposite and wait for us to come out. I well remember the Creche too, with the old derelict bus to play on.

My great grandmother, Marion Bushby, was born at No. 17 Sussex Street on 7th April 1875. Her father was Francis Bushby - one of the fishermen in the photo of Brighton seamen, 1864. Francis had three wives and a total of nine children by them. They then moved to 46 Cambridge Street - were those houses any bigger?

Does anyone have any pictures or know of any history of Elmore Road, Brighton? Thank you.

On the 1841 Census, my Great Great Grandfather's first wife Catherine Goddard aged 13 was living with her parents in Woburn Place. Her father Philip Goddard, Bricklayer, was a widower and bringing up three children on his own. William and John were shoe apprentices. In 1849, Catherine married my Great Great Grandfather and her father Philip is a witness to the marriage.
Does anyone else have any family history connected with Woburn Place?

My grandmother, Mary Sullivan, was born in Woburn Place in 1895. Her parents were William and Jane Sullivan. William was a fish hawker and Jane was a washerwoman. From there I understand Mary went on to live at Park Place (also demolished later as slum clearance) where my dad, George Sullivan, Mary's son, was born in 1918.

The Creech that you speak of is still there but has changed a lot. I'm 41 now but spent the first nine years of my life playing in that park. I think it's actually called the creche now but I could be wrong. I just thought it was called the Creech because nobody could pronounce creche. I lived at No 20 Elmore Road from 1966 to 1975.

Hiya Lynette. Us kids always knew it as 'The Creech' as we were never posh enough to know words like creche. I lived at 24 Sussex Terrace after being bombed out next door to the garage that used to be on the Sussex St corner, so the bombsite and 'The Creech' was our local play area - ideal for cowboys and indians etc as we had a ready made fort. Is the Blue House Pub still on Sussex St? I think I will have to come and have a dekko as I expect it's all changed around there now?

This picture could not have been taken in 1931. My house was built in 1931. I have a picture of it near to the time as well.

Does anyone know of a pub called "Live and let live", in this area?

The Live and Let live, I think, was on Richmond Street. I think on the corner of Dinapore Street near the railings. Just below what is now John Street? or in that area.

If you go into Local Folk on the start up page for My Brighton and Hove and look at Obed Arms Pub on the corner of Richmond St, there are some references to the Live and Let live pub. Maybe someone will have more info.

The Live and Let Live pub was on the north east corner, Dinapore Street and Richmond Street.  During the 50s the landlord was Fred Hatton, a bald thin man with glasses, always used to give me the different coloured beer bottle caps in a large biscuit tin full of cigarette ash. I have a photo of the pub just before its demolition.  At the centre of the crossroads were the green railings and a gas lamp.  I lived just a few houses along in Claremont Place, the only building left is the pub at the south end of Claremont Place, the Lion & Unicorn pub (called the Blue House) and the kerb outside is original 1950's.  The Blue House looks the same but the atmosphere is nothing like it was back then.

The Blue House is no longer there, it  was closed last year I believe, and is being made into a home. Good old pub, good company, all gone. My family is born and bred in Brighton, Sussex Street and Milner Flats. Later in life Manor Farm, but we move back to our roots, or near, around Ashton Rise and Elmore Road. Brighton is the place to be.

With reference to the "Creche" and the obsolete mode of transport that was placed there for the kids to play on (circa 1950s), it was neither a train nor a bus but a very old Dennis fire engine that was built about the 1920s. Of course it may have been replaced by the 60s but the creche was fairly small and I don't think it would have accommodated a steam loco.

I wonder if Bev Weaver is a relative of Benny Weaver, years 1930s & 1940s?

We used to spend holidays in Brighton staying at my grandparents' place at 66 Sussex Street, this would be in the 1950s. I remember a pub on a corner, would this have been the Miller's Arms?

Hi Nicki, I now live at 66 sussex street - how strange? The Millers Arms was on the corner of Windmill Street and Sussex Street, very close to number 66, it's now called the Setting Sun. I do believe however that my house along with the 2 adjoining houses was once a hotel?

The 'Live and Let Live' pub was where I had my first legal drink - a light ale. The landlord Fred Ogbin would serve you a scotch from under the counter when he got to know you, as the pub was only licenced to sell ale.

Tarner Land Nursery. Top of Sussex Street. I can still see it in my mind's eye. Got a photo of it somewhere.

Does anyone know of a pub called the Claremont Arms? According to the 1881 census my ancestors were beer retailers and lived at 25 Sussex St, Claremont Arms. Many thanks.

Hi all, just found this site. I remember the creech at the end of Elmore road and had a lot of happy days playing there. Lynette, you said you lived at 20, Elmore Road - I lived there from 1950 till 1956, my family lived there a long time before and after I left.

Hi, John Dine. I've just found this site, and its been great to relive all the old times around those streets. We lived in Jersey Street off Albion Hill: me, Michael, Derek and Philip. My mother's maiden name was Dine she became Peggy Ellett and she lived in Elmore Road till she got married, can't remember the number although I could go straight to the house. Your name is very familiar - is there a Ronny Dine? My earliest memories are of the Creech and Sussex Street Nursery where I went from 1957-1961. I remember the big bonfire nights that used to be in Elmore Road. Is there anyone from Jersey Street looking into this site? We lived at 42. Sadly my mum is no longer with us - she would have loved to have reminisced about this.

Hello Christine Ellett. My mum and dad's names were Ivy and John, my brothers were Alan, Ron and Keith. We moved from Moulscoombe Way to Elmore Road about 1950 to live with my nan Eliza. I have to report that both parents and Alan and Ron are no longer with us.

Christine Ellet, if you send me your email address I'll email you a photo of your brother Michael (with me & my Gran nee Dine) taken about 1949 in the Kent hopfields. I remember your mum Peggy (my mum's first cousin) and I'm wondering if John Dine's grandparents were Luke Dine and Emma nee Dorrington who lived at No. 20 Elmore Road?  secondary2297@hotmail.com

Hi C. West, you are right - my grandfarther's name was Luke but my grandmother's name was Eliza and her maiden name was Dorrington. She later moved to Beaty Avenue in Coldean.

Hi John Dine, your grandmother's name was Eliza I'm sure but her sisters in law (Luke's sisters) called her "Black Emma". I have a portrait photo of Luke and his young brother Bob in uniform during WW1, Luke as a sergeant in the Royal Sussex Regiment and his brother Bob as a telegraphist in the Royal Navy, Bob was later murdered in an IRA ambush in Rathmore County Kerry in May 1921 whilst serving as a RIC constable, I also have photos of Luke's other sisters, even one of his mum (your Great Grandma) plus snippets of the family's dirty laundry from all those years ago as told to me by my Gran Sarah Elizabeth Dine (she married John George West 1915). Interested?

Hi C West, very interested tell me how we can get in contact.

Hi John Dine, you can get me at secondary2297@hotmail.com

Does anyone remember the "Crown & Sceptre" pub on the corner of Sussex Street and Richmond Hill? My husband's great, grandparents Charles and Alice Prodger owned or managed this pub until the slum clearances during the 1930s. I have a photo of them standing outside the pub.

I see a number of people commenting on the Live and Let Live public house. Anonymous (15/02/2009) is correct to say that Fred Hatton was the landlord in the 1950s (in fact he was there until it was closed). The pub had been in the Hatton family for a very very long time as before Fred Hatton his father, Charles Thomas Hatton, my great grandfather, was the landlord.

I have a photo of my wife's Grandmother and Grandfather and we think her father as a teenage boy standing outside the Crown and Sceptre in Richmond Hill. There are also two other ladies in the picture one of whom may be her Great Grandmother. Her Grandmother is holding a whippet and one of the others is holding a black dog. I wonder if you have the same photo.

How many beer houses were there in Sussex Street? According to the 1881 census, my relative lived at 135 Sussex Street, Yacht and Anchor, and his occupation was Beer House Retailer. Any information welcome.

Hi, I lived at 12 Tilbury Way until 1963. I went to Richmond St Infants School 1950 - 1953. The area around Albion Hill, Richmond St and Sussex St did have a lot of pubs, almost one on every corner. My Granparents lived in Tarner Road and my Gran could often be found in either the Millers or the London Arms. I went back to Tilbury Way two years ago to show my daughter where I lived. Is it me or have the streets and houses shrunk?

Hello. Tarner Stories, a Lottery funded History Project based in Tarner is looking for photos and stories of life in Tarner. We are really keen on finding any information before the slum clearance and after, and anything about life in the pubs in Tarner.It's a really exciting project that will end in a book, exhibition and content within a website. Please contact Chloe or Jess at info@tarnerhistory.org.