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Photo:North Street, Portslade c.1900s

North Street, Portslade c.1900s

From the private collection of Bob Carden

Memories of North Street 1951-65
By Dudley Whittaker

My name is Dudley Whittaker and I lived at 53, North Street between 1951 and 1965.

Sweets and the Salvation Army
53 North Street was a shop owned by my mother Mary Whittaker where she sold mostly tobacco and confectionery. Whilst my memory is less than impressive, I believe I can remember some of the people who lived in and around the street during the 1950s and 1960s. Our shop was two-thirds of the way down on the same side as the Salvation Army. I remember it well and particularly Mr Moon who I think led their band.

A Coronation invitation 1953
Next to us, at number 51, lived Mr and Mrs Imrie with their daughters Felicity and Vivien. They lived above the shop rented by Nora Robinson who sold material and cottons. At number 55 (down from our house) lived Mr and Mrs Judge who ran a carpet shop in the early 1950s. They closed down later in the '50s and the building lay derelict for many years. I particularly remember them because they had a TV before almost anybody else. My first introduction to TV was on 2nd June 1953 when we were invited in to watch the Coronation. This was followed a week or so later by a street party to celebrate the event.

Remembering the neighbours
At number 57 lived Mr and Mrs Ware and their son Alan. They were fairly elderly in the early 1950s and ran a greengrocers but soon retired. I now get a little vague but I think that the next shop (59) sold cat and dog food for a while. When it closed the rest of the building was occupied by a Mrs Sweet with her sons John and David. Number 61 was a Post Office for a while run by Mr and Mrs Cable and assisted by their son, Jimmy. The corner shop was at some stage a cafe but I don't know who owned it.
Moving down the road oppposite us lived two elderly ladies: Ethel Rippington and in the next house down, Violet Roelich. Next to them were the Stevens' with their children Joan and Victor (my contemporaries). Two doors down were the Willards. They had 3 or 4 children. The only one I knew was Maurice. Then there were the Fords. Their daughter, Valerie, was also a contemporary.

The Crazy Gang
Opposite us were two shops which changed their use at different times but I can't remember the details other than three uses: a bread shop (with lovely cakes); a shop which sold tools (owned by Mr Fuller who lived in Hangleton); and a bookmakers run by a Mr Dowsett. The particular memory of the bookmakers is that among their regular customers were the 'Crazy Gang' including Flanagan and Allen who used to come into my mum's shop too.

Caught red handed!
On the corner opposite the Baptist Church (to which I was sent every Sunday morning despite protests) was the impressive house of an elderly lady, Mrs Baddeley. She had a small orchard which had delicious apples. One day, having been scrumping (a word you never seem to hear these days) I was caught climbing back over her wall by a policeman. He gave me a choice of a clip round the ear or telling my mum. I chose the 'clip' but he told my mum anyway!

Potted memories
The sack factory seemed to dominate North Street but I can vividly remember Goble's (a brilliant greengrocers), the Home and Colonial Stores, and the butchers. Like others, I remember the cinema as being a flea pit.

The Clarence
My memory is that during my time there it was a good community, although there were one or two difficulties. The sailors (often Russian) called in at The Clarence (run by Bert Myers) when they were in Shoreham Harbour. They could be pretty noisy and I can vividly remember the sound of breaking glass when the pub closed.

Do you have memories of North Street?
I would be really interested to hear from anybody if I've struck a chord. I now live in Suffolk but have really fond memories of Portslade and always look out for the Albion (not the Seagulls) scores.

Added to the site on 23rd April 2006 
This page was added on 26/06/2006.

Comments:

My grandfather Robert Goddard ran a butchers shop at 53 North Street in the early 1900s. Kelly's Directory shows him there in 1905. I wonder when it changed to a sweet shop?

By Christine Brickell (24/09/2006)

I'm unable to help, except that I know it was a sweet shop immediately before we moved in, in 1951. I've looked at some of the paperwork relating to the property purchase in 1951 but this reveals little.

By Dudley Whittaker (30/09/2006)

I used to live in East Street. My sister Beryl and I also attended the Baptist Church in North Street where we had to go to Sunday school every Sunday. Do you remember going on the Sunday school outings with all the famlies? Coaches would take us all, then we would stop at a road side restaurant for lunch. On one of these occasions, when we went to Tunbridge Wells, it rained all day so everyone had to go to the pictures. I was in the girls life brigade. They also had a boys brigade, were you in that? I also had to go to bible study at the minister's house once a week. Where I live in Australia, the Baptish Church holds their service in the high school as they don't have a church built. It's a lot different from when we attended. The minister here plays in the band at the service. I knew Mr and Mrs Moon - yes, he was the band master. I also remember a lot of the shops down North Street. I only found this site by accident, which I am glad as I told my sister about it as she still lives in Woodingdean Sussex.

By Patricia Finneran (nee Morley) (10/10/2006)

I can remember the outings and one in particular to Camber Sands where there was a gale force wind. There was more sand in my sandwiches than on the beach! It always seemed slightly odd to go from one seaside resort to another for an outing.

By Dudley Whittaker (19/10/2006)

Does anyone remember the name of the other square below North Street demolished in the 50s slum clearance? One was Belgrave Square near Boundary Road, the other near where Tate Repair Shop, formally Flexer Sacks now stands.

By Emma Wheatland (17/01/2007)

I think one of the squares off North Street was called Clarendon Square, as the Clarendon pub was nearby.

By Tony Clevett (11/02/2007)

One of the other squares of North Street, was St James's Square. I think that it was where the Flexer Factory was built. One of the houses was used in the making of a WWII, film as was the cinema at the bottom of North Street I believe.

By Dave Phillips (26/02/2007)

Do you remember the baker's shop, Mason's on the corner of North Street and Campden Street?

By Jan Howlett (07/03/2007)

Emma, I put a couple of photos of Belgrave Square on this site a while ago. Going west along Wellington Road, from the bottom of Station Road, Belgrave Square was first on the right followed, I think, by Camden Place, which was actually another square or col-de-sac.

By Alan Phillips (09/03/2007)

My grandad, Ernie Mason, owned the bread shop until he died in 1960. Does anyone have any memories of my family, or the shop that they can share with me? (jh122@hotmail.com)

By Jan Howlett (26/03/2007)

Has anyone anny info re 67 North Street, Portslade by Sea, Sussex. A corner premises. I have been told at one time it was a pub?

By Howard Hacker (05/04/2007)

67, North Street was for many years, I believe, a cafe which sold a range of sandwiches through to full English breakfasts. It was used quite a lot by employees of Flexers (the sack factory) and Bakers (the wood yard). I can never remember it as a pub but that could have been before my time in North Street [1951 - 1965].

By Dudley Whittaker (11/04/2007)

Nice to see Tony Clevett is still in Portslade, long time no see. I don't think you live that far away from me.(Valley Road) What times we had so many years ago. The old names just come flooding back: Sonny Watts, Len and Jack Ratcliffe,Bert Thorpe,Frankie Harman and his parents, the Harveys. George and Ivy Fuller and of course your very own parents, the list is almost endless.

By Chris Goble (13/07/2007)

My Uncle Bert owned the grengrocers, Bert Goble. I can remember being machine gunned in North Street. My mother Daisy (Goble) took me by the hand and ran into a sweet shop, right through into the back room. The woman in that room told us it was only a motor bike and to get out. We were down from London trying to escape the bombs only to be machine gunned.

By Jean Verlander (11/08/2007)

My Grandmother lived at 44 North Street until her death in 1965. I think she moved there in the 1950s. I visited with my parents occasionally and spend summer holidays there in the late 1950s and early 1960s. My memories are scant but I recall that 44 was an upstairs maisonette. I have a photograph of her unlocking the door and there seems to be a shop window next door as there is a Bachelors Peas sign running along the bottom of the window. I do not recall the shop but remember a café on the same side a few doors up. Thanks for the posting. Spent a nostalgic day in Brighton this week including a visit to North Street Portslade and your information, plus the photograph, are of great interest in my family history work.

By Robert Keen (25/08/2007)

Chris Goble, great to hear from you Mate,yes,long time no see,hope you and yours are well. Sadly I no longer live near you, having moved to Worthing last year. Can't get used to it yet, once a Portslade boy always one. The names you mentioned brought back many happy memories, nice people and a great neighborhood, we could write a book eh? I still see Gordon Aylwood now and then and I have seen Micky Green. I often go back down and just close my eyes and remember, great childhood days. Hope to see you sometime Chris, always a wecome for you.

By Tony Clevett (01/09/2007)

To Chris Goble: Do you happen to know if we are related? My mother was Daisy Goble, I was brought up in London, so do not know all my relatives. Bert Goble at the greengrocers was my uncle and Leslie Goble, who took over from his dad, was my first cousin.

By Jean Verlander (04/09/2007)

There were two Clevett brothers who were members of the Portslade branch of The Salvation army. I would be interested in any information on them.

By Tony Clevett (07/09/2007)

I think I remember Dudley Whittaker from my school days at St Mary's school Vale Road, Portslade. I used his mothers shop in North Street and can remember his mother making bread rolls for workers in the area. I remember the timber yard of H Bakers burning down. Does anyone remember Rios Cafe in North St? It was owned by a man called Jim and his wife who I believe was called Eve. They were Irish I think. I think they had a grandson called Eugene Mullen. Also at the top of North Street was a second hand shop called Better Bargains and I think it was there well after all the other shops had gone. Opposite bakers yard was the church and it had been turned into a wood machining factory. This site has bought so many memories flooding back for me.

By David Broad (09/09/2007)

To Jean Verlander:  Hi Jean - it would appear that we are cousins, your mother was my dad's elder sister, Emily Daisy Goble, born 1895 to George and Elizabeth Goble. My father was James Albert Goble born 1900. His younger brother Bert (Hubert) had the shop in North Street. I think you will find that the old family sold coal, fish and greengrocery, not from the same shop I must add. Aunt Daisy rings a bell in this old head of mine, but so many many years ago. Where did Aunt Daisy live before she moved to London?  Jean, if you want to get in touch with me, my email address is: christopher.goble1@ntlworld.com

By Chris Goble (14/09/2007)

Hi David. I can remember you from school. Your memory of North Street and my mother's shop are spot on. No doubt, collectively, we could go down memory lane in greater detail. If so, I'd be pleased to hear from you.

By Dudley Whittaker (23/09/2007)

Hi Dudley, wonderful to hear from you. Yes indeed we could no doubt recall much of Portslade and indeed the shopping area of Boundary Road and Station Road. This is my email address: dvd_broad@yahoo.co.uk please get in contact and we can recall together our collective memories and then perhaps post our knowledge on here and hopefully rekindle other peoples memories. Your memories to date have been fascinating.

By Dave Broad (07/10/2007)

Can anybody tell me what 79 North Street was? It's that lovely building that housed Grate Fireplaces up until about one month ago. It's the red brick building on the corner with Church Road. And did you know that there are plans to demolish it - the last bit of history left. How sad.

By Amanda Brown (12/10/2007)

Hello Amanda, the building you refer to was the Portslade branch of the Salvation Army many years ago and you are right there is a lot of history attached to it. One of my ancesters laid one of the foundation stones and I for one would be very sad to see the building demolished.

By Tony Clevett (12/10/2007)

I was a young member of Jimmy Ratcliff's gang in the late forties. Sometimes on our journeys up North Street we came across a poor lad called Dribble Johnny. He was a simple lad whose main crime seemed to be lifting girls skirts. Does anyone recall this poor boy? Ron and Gordon Halewood are my cousins and I recall many happy days down Elm Road,there were some pretty girls down there too!

By Den King (02/01/2008)

Hello Den - your name rings a bell. I still see Ron & Gordon around. Ron still lives in the old house in Elm Road, Gordon in Lancing quite near to me. I lived in Buckler Street in those days and they were happy times. Jimmy Ratcliff is also still around. Dribble Johnny was Johnny Rosa, he had a sister June. North Street was heavily populated in those days with many shops and houses all now sadly gone and replaced with industry.The Elm Road area has changed little except for the people.

By Tony Clevett (12/01/2008)

Hi Tony, I think you are younger than me, I'm almost 70! I recall us coming back from the Pavilion and playing cowboys and Indians or Americans and Japanese hiding in the Buckler St Gardens to ambush the other half of the gang. I wonder what happened to the Watts girls. Dont go over that way much now since Auntie Meg died, it all seems so dismal now with the steets full of cars. It would be good to meet at Gordons to talk about the old days.

By Den King (15/01/2008)

Hello Den, I do remember being part of the Buckler Street battles, but was probably an Indian or Japanese as I always seemed to be shot. The Watts girls are my cousins although I havent seen them for years. I was very unhappy when the Buckler houses were pulled down. As you say, it isn't the same.

By Tony Clevett (17/01/2008)

Hi Den. My name is Beryl Thompson (it used to be Morley). I used to live in East Street with my two sisters, one was called Joan and the other Pat. I think you may be refering to a boy called Johnny Roser - he used to live opposite us in East Street with his sister June and family. He was of no harm to anybody. He and his sister used to walk up and down the road banging on saucepan lids. He never did us any harm. Hope this solves your problem.

By Beryl Thompson (nee Morley) (03/02/2008)

Hi Beryl, thank you for clearing up the Roser name. My mom was June's sister. John is now dead, and no he never harmed anyone although he did scare us. June is still alive and is in Hove.

By Eddie McCabe (17/04/2008)

Hi Den, thank you for your reply. Sorry to hear John is now dead, I hope June is well. I probably knew your mum. I remember the family all going off to the hop fields. I can't remember the sister's name, but I know one of them came to my sister's anniversary party. It was nice to hear from you.

By Beryl Thompson (nee Morley) (18/04/2008)

Hi Beryll, my mom's name is Anne. There was Violet, Maud, Gwen, Daisy and Alice. Also a few boys (thirteen in all). Mom's birthday was yesterday, she was 88. I'm going to tell her about this site tomorrow. I hope to post some pictures soon.

By Eddie Mccabe (19/04/2008)

I am Daisy Goble's daughter Jean. I have fond memories of sitting on the step of the Pub whilst my Mother and Father were having a drink with her Brother Bert (of the greengrocers). Can anybody tell me why everyone called the Pub Monty's? I never knew until I had grown up that it was actually called The Clarence.

By Jean Verlander (19/04/2008)

Hi Eddie, I am sorry I seem to have names mixed up and the above message was meant for you. I hope you can let me know your mum's sisters name.

By Beryl Thompson nee Morley (19/04/2008)

Hi Eddie, thank you for your reply. I do remember some of the sisters but don't remember Ann. I knew Maud, Violet and Gwen. I have a sister called Pat and another called Joan. Pat now lives in Australia. She used to go out with two of your sisters and she went to the hop fields with them as well. I have told her about your letter and she said she would write one. It would be nice to have some pictures. Thank You.

By Beryl Thompson (nee Morley) (20/04/2008)

Hello Eddie, my sister Beryl said that she had written to you about John and June. My name is Pat and I am Beryl's sister, I now live in Australia. Yes I remember the family, I used to go over to their house. Also Mrs Roser took me with them one year when they all went hop picking. We all slept in huts with straw as mattresses. We also went blackberry picking while we were there, they were good days. I read that John had died, I read that June is living in Hove. It's good to hear from people who lived in Portslade.

By Pat Finneran (nee Morley) (20/04/2008)

Hi Pat and Beryl. I have seen my mom, who was called Nancy then I'm told, and Maud who does remember you and sends her best. She also told me of another family of Morleys who lived opposite them when they lived at the bottom of East Street during the second time they lived there. They also remember the hop picking in Kent. It was great to go through the old photos which I will put on here soon.

By Eddie McCabe (23/04/2008)

Hi Eddie. Thank you for your reply. Yes, there was another family off Morleys. They lived two doors down from your mum. There were three girls: Chris, Mary and I can't remember the name of the other one. We lived opposite them; they were no relation to us. I will look forward to seeing photos.

By Beryl Thompson (nee Morley ) (27/04/2008)

Going by my recollections of my Saturday mornings at the wonderful Rothbury in the '50s, I always thought it was Caroline that Johnny Roser came along with to help us all cheer on the goodies during the shoot-out at the end of each reel, but I didn't realize before that there were other sisters too.

By Jeremy Pender (18/06/2008)

I grew up through childhood at 49 Wellington Road just around the corner from North Street. Have lived in New Zealand since 1966. Well remember many places/people mentioned earlier here - especially John & June Roser, The Rotherbury Cinema, The Baptist Church, Post Office, Flexer's Sack Factory, etc etc. Lived with my mother and grandparents, Ben & Mabel Fears, on Wellington Road and attended Benfield Primary School. Hoping to make a first visit back before it's too late!Well remember "The Jolly Sailors " pub. We lived opposite the Gas Works where I had my first job.
I was friends with both the Willards and the Fords in North Street. There was Maurice and Raymond Willard and my mate Derek Ford. Guess we got into lots of mischief in those days! Also knew Jimmy Cable from the Post Office. Also the Martins, especially 'Dinkie' Martin who seemed to lead me into much grief. All this was in the years 1952-1966.

By Jim Duncan (in New Zealand) (25/07/2008)

Hello Jimmy Duncan. I am sure we were in the same classes at St. Peters and Benfield all those years ago along with Ray & Derek. Sadly some of our old class mates are no longer with us.

By Tony Clevett (29/07/2008)

Hello Tony Clevett - What a surprise !Yes, you are spot-on with your memory. I remember the name but not the face after all this time. Would love to catch up with you when I visit UK, hopefully very soon. Guess you are in the local Portslade area? My daughter made a visit home a few years ago to see my old stomping grounds. Seems really strange for me to hear from an acquaintance so far back in my early life. Good to hear from you. Jim Duncan, NZ

By Jim Duncan (30/07/2008)

Hello Jim, good to hear from you, I no longer live in Portslade having moved to Worthing a couple of years ago. Most of our old classmates are still in the area though, Tony Butcher, Bill Wright and Lol Coppard to name but a few. I should have retired last year but was asked to, and was happy to carry on for a while. Good to hear from you also, Jim.

By Tony Clevett (04/08/2008)

Chris Goble, sorry we haven't kept in contact Chris, but you only put 5 numbers down for your phone number. Best wishes

By Tony Clevett (09/09/2008)

An answer to Jean's question. The Clarence was called Montys because the landlord at the time was Bertram Montague Myers.

By Pauline (nee Goble) (22/10/2008)

I remember the sweet shop in North Street, and Mary Whittaker. Would often pop in with my younger sister Karen, for black jacks and fruit salads. I remember she had a very cosy back living room.
We lived in the Clarence pub, opposite Flexers sack factory. My mother Rose was then married to Gordon Luxton, who ran the pub from around 1966 for a couple of years. I remember very well, Gobles the greengrocers, right at the top of North Street, and played with Barbara(?) one of the daughters of the owners. "Lost in space" in the garage was one of our games.

By Sandie Laidlaw (nee Luxton) (09/11/2008)

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