Baker's Shops by John Billing 5 January 2005Can anyone please advise what Baker’s Shops were in Brighton Hove area in 1871 Many thanks John13 replies Re: Baker' Shops by Geoff 5 January 2005Hi John! Can you be more specific as there are 3 1/2 columns in my 1870 directory? Re: Baker' Shops by John Billing 5 January 2005Hi Geoff Unfortunately I do not know the exact location, am trying to determine the name of a street where there is a Baker’s Shop listed on the 1871 Census Would it be possible to send me a print-out of the page? John Re: Baker' Shops by Geoff 8 January 2005Hi John! Sending a copy would be a little difficult as the book is rather fragile. Can you give me the information you have & I will search for you. Geoff Re: Baker' Shops by John Billing 9 January 2005Hi Geoff I think the name of the Street is Bryanstone Terrace, the Baker’s Shop was apparently at No 18. Would this have been termed the ‘Preston’ area? It is located in the Elm Grove area I believe! Many thanks John Re: Baker' Shops by David Fisher 10 January 2005Can’t be sure about 1871 but four years earlier Kelly’s Directory for 1867 lists 147 addresses as ‘baker’ or ‘baker and confectioner’, plus another 35 as ‘confectioner’. Nine of these premises (six bakers, three confectioners) had the name of proprietors with other addresses for the same activity, and there were a number of recurrent family names. (Interestingly, two names NOT found are Forfar and Cutress.)Whether ‘baker’ meant a bakery (with ovens) or just a purveyor (ie, bread shop) is not certain. None are listed as wholesale bakers and only two firms are identified specifically as a wholesale confectioners, one of them with the familiar name of Maynard (wholesale & retail confectioner & lozenge manufacturer). Confectioner could mean sweets as well as cakes, of course.There’s a picture of one baker’s here (also in the list): http://www.mybrightonandhove.org.uk/rifle_butt_road_history.htmInterestingly, the list not only contains no ‘sweet’ shops but also no tobacconists. Does anyone have any idea where people bought tobacco? Presumably such premises were licensed. There are hundreds of beer retailers and wine and spirits shops.David Fisher Re: Baker' Shops by Geoff 10 January 2005Hi John, I have found Bryanston Terrace in 1870, but the directory ends at no.17. You are quite right, it was off Elm Grove going towards Race Hill. However, at no.40 Elm Grove there was W.G.Piper, baker & confectioner. I also have a post office directory for 1878, and Bryanston Terrace seems to have disappeared, but this directory is extremely deficient as goes from 47 to 100 Elm Grove without any property being listed. There is a baker at no.116, a George Ringshaw. I’m sorry but that’s all I can find out for now, but you could ask the local studies library if they can look up an 1871 directory for you. Re: Baker' Shops by John Billling 11 January 2005David & Geoff Many thanks for your help, I think my questions will now be answered. Best wishes John Re: Baker' Shops by vic phillips 14 January 2005Hi Geoff, My GGGgrandfather George Lower was a baker from 1818 to 1861 in Little Russell Street. I am interested in bakers in Brighton of this period of the name Lower, so I can trace family. Have you any details? Vic Re: Baker' Shops by Andy Grant 21 January 2005Vic, Try these from the trade directories I have:-Lower G. Baker 15 Upper Russell Street 14 Baxter 1822 Lower Geo. Baker Little Russell Street 499 Pigot 1824 Lower George Shopkeeper Little Russell Street 672 Pigot 1840 Lower George Baker 48 Market Street 1496 Kelly 1859 Lower George Baker 48 Market Street 1980 Kelly 1867 Lower H. Baker (Bread & Biscuit) 9 Manchester Street 3 Baxter 1822 Lower Henry Baker 13 High Street 638 Kelly 1845 Lower Henry Baker 10 Manchester Street 499 Pigot 1824 Lower Henry Baker 10 Manchester Street 692 Pigot 1828 Lower Henry Baker Manchester Street 1012 Pigot 1832 Lower Henry Baker 10 Manchester Street 665 Pigot 1840 Lower Jesse Baker 117 Edward Street 638 Kelly 1845 Lower Jesse Baker 38 Lavender Street 665 Pigot 1840 Lower Mr. -, Baker Manchester Street Herald 1830 Lower William Baker 117 Edward Street 665 Pigot 1840 Lower Wm. Baker 21 Edward Street 499 Pigot 1824 Lower Wm. Baker 1 St. John’s Street 5 Baxter 1822 Regards Andy Re: Baker' Shops by John Billing 22 January 2005Andy Many thanks for your assistance in this and other enquiries, most appreciated John Re: Baker' Shops by vic phillips 26 January 2005Andy,Many thanks for list of Lower bakers, I had some of the detail,the list is extremely helpful.I think that Henry Lower the baker could be George’s brother,both born Seaford? but no definite link yet.Possibly Jesse and William might be related. Regards Vic Re: Baker' Shops by vic phillips 27 January 2005Andy, George Lower of 48 Market Street is the son of George Lower of Little Russell Street. The elder died in 1866, and the younger died in 1878.Henry Lower died in 1849.William Lower I think died in 1839 and Jesse Lower,possibly a nephew,took over the business in Edward Street.I have yet to find evidence of the connection between George and Henry Lower but its out there somewhere. Regards Vic Re: Baker' Shops by Mike Strudwick 13 January 2008My GG Grandfather James Cawdell Martin was a baker. He was living at 9 Richmond Hill in 1871. Anyone come across him? Add your replyHiddenAdd your title Add your wordsWould you like to add some images (optional)? If so, how many images would you like to add? 1 2 3 4 5 6Your image files will be uploaded when you submit this form. They should be .jpg or .png files. The maximum filesize is 5Mb.First imageAccepted file types: jpg, jpeg, png, gif.FileTitleSecond imageAccepted file types: jpg, jpeg, png, gif.FileTitleThird imageAccepted file types: jpg, jpeg, png, gif.FileTitleFourth imageAccepted file types: jpg, jpeg, png, gif.FileTitleFifth imageAccepted file types: jpg, jpeg, png, gif.FileTitleSixth imageAccepted file types: jpg, jpeg, png, gif.FileTitleAbout youFinally, please tell us a few details about you, so we can contact you about your contribution if we need to. 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