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I do remember well the small pox scare and the ensuing vaccination two scratches that I responded to well and marked for life… As a kid I knew a lot about Small Pox as my Grandfather William Walker had many old medical books full of unsightly images the Small Pox ones were some of the worst….I was Seven years of age at the time and attended Stanford Road Junior school as it was then. I lived at 3a Albert Road, not short of a basement slum at the time, now been renovated and turned into three modern student apartments, such a contrast to our residence there. My friends at the time were John Hurley who tragically died in a drowning accident John Russell and Ian Grevitt..forgive me if the spelling is incorrect Ian.
I spent all my junior school years here and was there in 1952 when this picture was taken.. I was in Mr Smithers class in 52 prior to that Mrs Austin… I was there during the Coronation of our present Queen… I have many memories of these times. We had a penny sweet shop just outside the school rear gate run by a dear old lady from her home. I lived in Albert Road nothing short of the last of the Brighton slums at the time. We walked to school some distance across the Seven dials from the age of Seven, No 4X4 car trips to school and the winters were cold in those days.. I mean cold…
James Fowler was also my great grandfather and he was born at Glynde. The family moved to 23 Park Crescent and were there until the time that James died. I also have a picture taken outside of 23 Park Crescent Road when I believe James was 99yrs. My grandmother was Annie. I think that Nellie died some years before that but Bertha,Annie , Daisy and Louise were still alive at that time. James and his wife Elizabeth also had a son John but I don’t know what happened to him.
Love this photo, how crowded the beach and not one sun hat in view? The caption is 1930’s not 20’s which is probably more correct. Men did not carry bags with towel etc, so think male with small suitcase had his towel and sandwiches in it. I would hate to visit such an overcrowded beach but these people knew nothing better. I visited a beach on the East coast of Central Florida, very crowded, but found a lovely bare patch of sand, just near the water. My son and I settled. Soon up walks a life guard, “sorry you cannot sit there, our station is just up from you and we leave a wide pathway to the water in case of emergency. Wondered why beach goers around had left this area clear. Now we know, we felt rather stupid gathering our belongings and attempting to find another area.
I remember it as “The Albion Inn” I lived just down the road from it. Right opposite the Spread Eagle. Spent lots of happy memories there.
The sound of the waves rolling pebbles back after crashing on the beach, and late in the afternoon finding sand to walk over. This I so miss on the sandy beaches of Florida. To search among the pebbles for certain ones and maybe a shell or two. This is the Brighton I recall of my childhood days, some many years ago. Mother holding the towel so we could undress and put our bathers on, and at the end of the day, holding the towels so we can get wet bathers off, no easy feat. If Brighton is so bad, as one suggested, why do the crowds continue to arrive on Bank Holiday Mondays? The coast line of England has sandy beaches, and rocky beaches and the iconic pebbly beaches of Brighton, you have a choice.
The group of Scouts behind the three cubs are from the 6th Hove Group. Trevor and Earnest Cummings, with Doug Wren, my brother John Cother leaning towards boy on his left. I met Trevor again in December 2019 when visiting my brother in the UK, (my brother passed away this year). Earnest is dead. If this picture was taken in 1950, it would make my brother ten, but I think Scouters are older. I will send photo on to Trevor to see if he can correctly date it.
My mother, Ivy Cother along with several other Mile Oak and Portslade mothers worked on the land for Farmer Broomfield. I was two years old when I can recall Mum daily pushing my pram down to where the old Black caravan was parked, near where the Girls School was built. There was a Ms. Hornsby, Ms. Hutton, and several others whose children would play all day near the caravan. I preferred to sleep the days away curled up on a pile of raincoats, inside the caravan. Ivy suffered for the rest of her life with a “bad back” from bending as they weeded the huge field, from Chalky Lane up to Mile Oak Road, and down to where later Valley Road would be.
Joan Constable, I remember you at the Mile Oak Girls School.
My Grandfather Cother was instrumental in developing a rockery at the front of St. Dunstans, which I believe has now gone. I am not sure of the year the rockery was built.
I lived in number 25 Tillstone Street as a child from the mid-50s and my parents were there until they died in the 1980s. My father used to speak of ‘Bill the Fish’ who also lived in the street and sold fish.
These are lovely photographs of an important place. I am glad someone is looking after it. I noticed on the JewishGen web site, to which I am signed up, that in some countries they have a project recording gravestones for geneological purposes. I would like to record (and translate where necessary) all the grave stones at Florence Place. Then maybe move onto the newer cemetery. Could Ivan Lyons contact me (I am not on Facebook)?
Tim Sargeant, Metal Box was a separate company entirely; located in Fishersgate. You are not the first to confuse the two as they were so close to each other and sounding so similar too.
I remember Adrian and Ian. I knew Ian very well. Wonder what happened to them?
You need to put these things down in writing Paul. It’s all a lost world now and in a few years no-one will know anything about the trials and tribulations of engineering businesses in those days. Didn’t that firm start out as Metal Box Co, or was that another company also in Portslade? I collected or delivered something there for Scott & Howell about 1963. S&H made metal parts for ladies’ brassieres and we also used to deliver to Kayser Bondor just down the road.
I can remember Mrs Edmonds who sold us toffee apples from her house, they were huge and just on chopped firewood ,I can remember having to wait sometimes for them to be ready, us Hodgkinsons lived in Chailey road I think 37,Dave,Lesilie ,Janet and Sheila, we lived opposite the Streeters and an Irish family but I can’t remember their names. Happy days. Dave Hodgkinson.
I worked at MB Metals from 1980/81 and stayed at the company for 19 years starting in the press shop. Neville Colgate was the manager Bill Glease was the setter Foreman. Alf was his side kick lots of nice ladies worked on the presses, many a story of that time! George Stoner was in the offices, after a year or so the press shop shut down and moved over to Newhaven with Carl Gozzet I think. I went over to the m/c shop with Stan Elphic ( I may have spelt the names incorrectly) Moving back to the press shop that was to work in the HDERU department with Terry Smith. I could write a book but that’s a small snippet.
The main youth club back in the late 50’s which was run by a great couple Mr/Mrs Harbor, and it was held in Carden School canteen the one and only “Hollingbury youth Club,” members came from all over Brighton cause it was such a great club. When l lived in Birchgrove Cres, in 1948 the flats hadn’t been built and opposite was the derelict pig- farms that was our playground. Days long gone and many good mates as well but never forgotten.
My great grandmother Mary Conisbee was born at 45 Richmond Buildings, Brighton in 1851. Her father (my 2x great grandfather) George Conisbee had a butcher’s shop. At some point in the 1850s they moved to 92 Albion Hill. George features in 1854 newspaper reports after whacking his brother William over the head with a meat cleaver during a drunken altercation. William left Brighton by an early train on the day of George’s appearance before the magistrates, to avoid giving evidence against his brother. George and William Conisbee came from a family of butchers near Leatherhead and the family business continues in that area to this day.
Couple of familiar names here, and it’s great to read all these stories. It seems postings on different pages reach different people, so apologies for repeating myself but I’m trying to revive the somewhat dormant Cottesmore Facebook page, so if anyone here wants to get back in touch with old friends, please join us at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2256941972 Look forward to hearing from you! (You’ll find me in Facebook under the name of my ol’ dog, “Fearless LeChien”.)
Er, Millie’s singles hits were 10 years earlier. Transcription error!
As kids we used to bunk in the toilet at the back and see the films through twice. This was 70 years ago!
Great to see so many memories. I hope folks here will want to continue reminiscing and perhaps reconnect with old Cottesmore classmates on the ex-pupils’ and teachers’ Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2256941972
Late to the game, but … Thanks people for remembering Fine Records, which should have a major place in developing the UK history of independent music through punk (cheers Robbie and Paul for the workmate support back then!).
Sadly Jill T’s memories are corrupted. There was no shop in the Lanes in 1964 when the single came out. Millie’s Smile Bazaar was near the Technical College on Grand Parade c1967.
Before my time,as Fine Records opened the shop in 1967,but too late for Millie (her hits were 1974 -5) and before Millie’s Smile Bazaar (look elsewhere).
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